I would appreciate learning more about the term Jelly Beans.
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Subject: [SycamoreCanyon] Fw: from JYRI - Regarding firearms -- but mostly hunting
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<font size="4" face="Arial"><strong>I agree essentially with Jyri. I'm certainly committed to the 2nd but, like most gun owners, I believe strongly in treating any firearm with respect as very serious business. Eldri has noted many times that controversy has accompanied and followed me for much of my adult life (since I was 21). In a good number of cases, I have had firearms for self defense. With the exception of those instances where it was helpful to myself and my family and the Cause to let adversaries know I was armed, I have tended to do that very quietly. Ostentatious and non-utilitarian displays of firearms turns me off. In older times, in the various Western states where I lived at various points, we tended to see the types who waved firearms around as Dudes, Tenderfeet, and -- to use an especially damning Northern Arizona term -- Jelly Beans. (H)</strong></font>
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<strong><font size="2">Hunter,</font></strong>
<strong><font size="2">By way of coincidence and with nothing better to do, I just happened to comment on a story in HuffPost about a restaurant somewhere in Colorado where staff and clientele can freely and openly carry loaded weapons. As I've pointed out, I have no problems with firearms, and I'm gradually even learning to understand the US 2nd Amendment (getting there....), but guns are serious hardware for serious use. I can understand concealed carry for security reasons, but flaunting weapons in public in what I regard as a semi-fetishistic way is asking for trouble, given the normal range of crazies out there, plus the purely technical risks of having loaded weapons in places where people meet.</font></strong>
<strong><font size="2">Best,</font></strong>
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<strong><font size="2">HuffPost story: </font></strong>
<a target="_blank" href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/04/waitresses-carry-guns-shooters_n_5557773.html"><strong><font size="2"></font></strong></a><strong><font size="2"><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/04/waitresses-carry-guns-shooters_n_5557773.html" target="_blank">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/04/waitresses-carry-guns-shooters_n_5557773.html</a></font></strong>
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<font size="1"><font face="Arial">My comment: <span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'lucida grande',tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif;COLOR: rgb(26,26,26);FONT-SIZE: 12px;">Admittedly as a foreigner I'll never understand this stuff. I have no problem with hunting and marksmanship, and even the unfortunate necessity of having firearms for protecting oneself or one's home, but this is borderline fetishistic. The security risks of openly displaying or flaunting weapons in places where both ends of the bell curve freely congregate are probably worse than with concealed carry, in turn a different set of problems. I think the proprietors of Shooters tacitly recognize some of the risk by not serving booze on the premises. The presence of loaded firearms in indoor situations with several people present reminds me of the very strict firearms safety regulations from my national service in Finland. Unloaded at all times indoors, magazine removed and loading mechanism checked. Most likely similar rules apply in military situations in other countries, the US included, all of which leads to the question of why should a public restaurant be less safe than army barracks.</span></font></font>
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